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is hagel on board with all of this diminishment of american power. >> hagel is no george marshall and no henry kissinger. is he not somebody of great stature and ideas of his own. he has never been known for that and nobody has been able to produce a single idea or a single piece of legislation. he will do what the president wants him to do. that's one of the reasons he chose him. there is an affinity of views and i don't expect him to stand up to the president. the way i would have expected a panetta to when it came to drastic cuts. >> bill: all right. let's assume that hagel is. >> he will be the president's -- >> bill: set guy in there are you got iran coming down the pike and hagel has been soft on iran in the sense that he doesn't want to confront iran. and then hagel is also not a friend of israel in a very bullish way. so you have got those two things as well. >> look. on the iran thing. the word soft is is an understatement. we have had very legitimate and serious argument between patriots on both sides who argue for a military option and for not. vis-a-vis iran. nobody argues
is hagel on board with all of this diminishment of american power. >> hagel is no george marshall and no henry kissinger. is he not somebody of great stature and ideas of his own. he has never been known for that and nobody has been able to produce a single idea or a single piece of legislation. he will do what the president wants him to do. that's one of the reasons he chose him. there is an affinity of views and i don't expect him to stand up to the president. the way i would have...
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the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know, what can they do to you? send you back to vietnam? >> that all may be true. on the importance of this response, that the number two democrat in the senate, new york's chuck schumer, gave to "the wall street journal" when asked about hagel's nomination. >> you owe the president, no matter what party you are and what party he is, a right to hear his nominee. so i want to hear directly from chuck hagel. i'll let him make his case. all i can say is that i have an open mind and i'm ready to sit and listen to him. >> do you t
the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the...
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won't chuck hagel be asked, are you in favor ever this zero troop option that is on the table? >> there is no question he'll be asked about it directly, this is one of the things that concerns you know, hawks in washington and elsewhere, is over the past several years it's been seen as leon panetta, and before him bob gates, you know, if not being hawkish at least in the intraadministration debates taking a position that was to the right of the president. i think with chuck hagel there is a very real propect that he will be basically in agreement with the president or maybe coming to these arguments from a more dovish prospective. i think that concerns republicans in the senate but also maybe some moderate centrist democrats in the senate. martha: very interesting. thank you so much. bill: if the government bailed you out why would you taourp you turn around and sue it? martha: we will have more on that. also joe biden sitting down with the video-game makers in a push to stop gun violence. at what point do parents need to take responsibility for what their kids are doing at hom
won't chuck hagel be asked, are you in favor ever this zero troop option that is on the table? >> there is no question he'll be asked about it directly, this is one of the things that concerns you know, hawks in washington and elsewhere, is over the past several years it's been seen as leon panetta, and before him bob gates, you know, if not being hawkish at least in the intraadministration debates taking a position that was to the right of the president. i think with chuck hagel there is...
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jon: i made that observation the other day because chuck hagel is not popular among some, even in the republican party. so the president gets to look bipartisan by nominating a republican, but it's a republican who doesn't enjoy widespread support or at least unanimous support from members of his own party. >> well, you know, you touched on something among the political pros in washington is much, a point of much conversation. you know he had challenged mitch mcconnell for leadership post while he was in the senate. so mcconnell doesn't have a whole lot of love for him. don't forget, he endorsed john kerry in that nebraska senate race that recently went to a republican. so people don't, of course he was opposed to the war. he opposed the surge in iraq. so the bush administration folks, again they don't have a whole lot of love but mitch mcconnell has said that chuck hagel will get a fair hearing. i think it is likely he will be confirmed, but again for the president's perspective, he has nominated a republican and he has put republicans in the position of having to reject one of their
jon: i made that observation the other day because chuck hagel is not popular among some, even in the republican party. so the president gets to look bipartisan by nominating a republican, but it's a republican who doesn't enjoy widespread support or at least unanimous support from members of his own party. >> well, you know, you touched on something among the political pros in washington is much, a point of much conversation. you know he had challenged mitch mcconnell for leadership post...
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for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff. they felt that they already had a fight on their hands. they didn't want to add any fuel to the fire on that, which is why they've held off of the nomination until this week. they do expect him to get confirmed and so do i. >> john kerry, secretary of state. we've got a lot of white males, shall we say, chuck hagel, we have pictures up there. jack lew, eric holder is over at the justice department. he's not a white male. he's an african-american. but no women. >> men. men. >> i want to put up another picture of the seen yr staff, if you will. there you you he sue the staff. there's been mur muring that there's not enough women part of this white house, the inner circle. what are folks saying about that? >> the visual you just showed with the four cabinet members being men, th
for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff. they felt that they already had a fight on their hands. they didn't want to add any fuel to the fire on that, which is why they've held off of the nomination until this week. they do expect him to get confirmed and...
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>>> meanwhile, more pushback over the president's selection of the independent minded chuck hagel as secretary of defense. >> on hagel's part, i actually think there are serious policy concerns and i think these hearings are going to make a great deal of difference as to whether he is confirmed or not. >> reporter: with washington barreling toward its borrowing limit, the white house is digging in its heels for debate over the debt ceiling. >> it is congress' responsibility to ensure that the bills congress racked up are paid. >> reporter: just one of several looming showdowns as the president prepares to kick off his second term. >> what you're seeing is a more aggressive barack obama, someone who is looking more at polishing what his place in history will be, the mark he wants to leave on the country in the next four years. and that, in some ways, means a more contentious relationship with congress. >> reporter: and some serious people, matt, are floating an idea to try to avoid that debt ceiling crisis, proposing that the treasury department mint a platinum trillion dollar coin. y
>>> meanwhile, more pushback over the president's selection of the independent minded chuck hagel as secretary of defense. >> on hagel's part, i actually think there are serious policy concerns and i think these hearings are going to make a great deal of difference as to whether he is confirmed or not. >> reporter: with washington barreling toward its borrowing limit, the white house is digging in its heels for debate over the debt ceiling. >> it is congress'...